Performing Arts

Weekly conversations and insights on the fine line between setback and success in the performing arts. Fellow creatives share their own journey as artists and the lessons learned along the way with host Patrick Oliver Jones, an actor who knows first-hand the ups and downs we all face.

Episodes

Seán Cullen is a Canadian actor, voice artist and stand-up comedian, known for combining improvisation with mimicry and music. He joins me today to share his love of comedy and writing books for his children. But we also dive into the worries and frustrations that come from almost making it and how to bounce back from a canceled show or that inner voice saying we aren't good enough.

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Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter (@winmipodcast) as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com
 
The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.

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Music in this episode:
"Whispers" by Hyson is licensed under a Attribution License.
"Mr. Sunny Face" by Wayne Jones.
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Overcome with laziness and procrastination, feeling unmotivated, stuck, and just can’t get started? Believe me, you are not alone. 

But there is hope when mired in such complacency. However, it may not be the solution you think it is. You and I were taught from an early age that we need to stay busy and keep moving. And while the intent behind those ideals was good, putting them into practice is neither easy nor always helpful. 

In this episode, I consider what we do as artists and the energy we expend to see if we can eliminate some actions, to see if laziness can be our guide to achieving a greater impact by doing less. This doesn't mean less is more. It means less can be better. 

Explore "laziness" in these articles: 
 - 7 Reasons Why Lazy People Are More Likely To Be Successful - Lifehack 
 - BEING LAZY IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS - The Independent 
 - Science: Lazy people are likely to be smarter, more successful, and better employees. Who knew? - CNBC 

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May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow. 

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Music in this episode: 
"Here" and "All Will See" by Hyson is licensed under a Attribution License
"Kitty In The Window" by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. (Based on a work at http://soundofpicture.com)

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Well, coronavirus is all people can talk about. It has completely changed our daily lives and interactions with others, especially in the world of theater. So I wanted to address it head on with friend-of-the-podcast Clayton Howe. We share how each of us lost our jobs and what we're doing now to keep going and make it through this extraordinary time in the world. 

I also give 5 ways we as artists can regain control during a very uncertain moment in our lives and careers: Commitment, Outside, Variety, Introspection, and Dreams. 

To follow Clayton and his podcast Entertainment(x): 
instagram.com/inclaynation & entertainmentx.podbean.com/ 

Articles mentioned in this episode: 

  • How stress influences disease - Science Daily
  • A Connecticut Theater Finds New Ways To Get Art To Audiences - WSHU
  • Getting At Least 7 Hours Of Sleep Helps Prevent Colds - NPR
  • How Coronavirus Impacts Broadway – Variety
  • How Coronavirus Shifted the World of Theater - The Guardian
  • Broadway Finds a Way for the Show to Go On - NBC News 

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May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow. 
 
For further insights (Twitter) and unreleased audio clips of today's interview (Instagram) be a part of the WINMI community on social media @winmipodcast. And you can always reach out to me on the website: contact.winmipodcast.com 

Lastly, this podcast is supported through kind donations of listeners like you by buying me a coffee

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Music used in this episode:

"March" by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial License

"Jazz Brunch" by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Attribution 3.0 International License

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This is a special episode where someone I consider to be one of the best in podcasting joins the show to discuss what he's learned about this growing medium and how we as artists can use this as another outlet for our creativity.

Dave Jackson has been podcasting since April of 2005. His School of Podcasting has been downloaded nearly 2 million times, and he has helped hundreds of people launch podcasts. He was also inducted into the Academy of Podcasters Hall of Fame in 2018. And now he's here to help you!

Here are some of the people and items discussed in this episode:

The Audacity to Podcast - Another podcasting guru, Daniel J. Lewis, shares his findings on the state of this medium and the 800,000+ podcasts currently listed by Apple.

Ultimate Guide to Hosting and Guesting Podcast Interviews - More than any episode I've ever listened to, this one by Dave gives a helpful overview of the the nuts and bolts of creating the best interview-style podcast.

Building a Better Dave - The personal diary of Dave Jackson. Each short episode attempts to make you laugh, cry, think, groan, educate, or entertain.

Here's a list of Dave's other podcasts:

Connect with Dave: Facebook, Twitter, YouTube

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I want this podcast (and especially this episode) to be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.
 
For insights and unreleased audio clips of today's interview, you can be a part of the WINMI community on Twitter and Instagram and you can always reach out to me directly at whyillnevermakeit@gmail.com
 
Lastly, this podcast is supported through kind donations of listeners like you by buying me a coffee.

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Whether in life or her profession, Megan lives by three simple mottos...

  • Work Hard  •  Be Kind  •  Stay Classy  •

And it is these ideals that led her to turn a punch to the gut into another creative outlet for finding work and fulfilling her passion. She opens up about the tough road she faced coming to NYC from Oregon and what propelled her into a world on the page and behind the camera. She's got a lot of wisdom and insight to share today...this is a jam-packed episode!

Here are links to what she talked about today:

Blog Post - Megan first joined the WINMI community in April of 2019 with her own Why I'll Never Make It story.

Adventuress Films - Art is important and has the power to make us realize, on a deep level, that we’re not alone in the world. And we need that now more than ever.

Glasgow Lyman - her friend and former guest on the podcast, who spoke about the mental game of auditioning

Anthony Meindl - an LA-based Writer, Director, Teacher, and Founder of AMAW studios

Her social media - Twitter, Instagram, YouTube

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I want this podcast to be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.
 
For insights and unreleased audio clips of today's interview, you can be a part of the WINMI community on Twitter and Instagram (@winmipodcast) and you can always reach out to me on the website: contact.winmipodcast.com
 
Lastly, this podcast is supported through kind donations of listeners like you by buying me a coffee.

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I first met Remy Germinario while taking improv classes at Upright Citizens Brigade in NYC. He’s an actor as well as a comedian, and he shares how he got into stand-up and how we as creatives wear many hats and have to showcase many talents. 
 
It was a few months ago that I was at an audition and ran into Remy. It had been awhile since our UCB classes together, and we started talking about all the stand-up he’s been doing and it absolutely fascinated and surprised me as to what all actually goes into being a comedian. And it’s that conversation that inspired this episode. 
 
Remy says there's no reason to pigeon-hole ourselves as just an actor or dancer or director. We can do many things, and for our well-being we should pursue as many avenues as we can to not only feed our bank accounts but also to feed our souls by finding creative outlets for the kind of art we want to make.
 
In our conversation, Remy talked about...
  • Freemics - a comprehensive listing of comedy open mics across the East and West Coast.
  • Stand Up NY - opened its doors in 1986 and has since become one of New York City’s premiere comedy clubs.
  • Comedy Mob - over 60 comics compete for the winning title in this annual festival, where New York City's up and coming talent try to win over our panel of judges and the audience vote.
  • Social Media - Twitter & Instagram: @RemyGerminario
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I want this podcast to be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.
 
For insights and motivations you can be a part of the WINMI community on Twitter and Instagram and you can always reach out to me on the website: contact.winmipodcast.com
 
Lastly, this podcast is supported through kind donations of listeners like you by buying me a coffee
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December 28, 2019

A Look Back at 2019

Welcome to the 2nd Anniversary episode of the podcast! And what a year it has been!

We’ve had wonderful guests from actors and singers to stage managers and artistic directors. And this episode is a look back at some of the best moments from the past year as well as a look ahead to what’s in store for 2020.
 
There’s a mix of previous released conversations and new clips never heard before now. I share clips from the popular Audition Stories episode, and then I highlight and critique the very first episode of the year, which was not my best to say the least.
 
The guests featured during this anniversary: (click the name to go to their episode)
 
 
With a special appearance by Andre DeShields (on the Tony Awards). 
 
Check out these podcasts by… 
Maggie Bera -  ACTOR AESTHETIC
Ilana Levine - LITTLE KNOWN FACTS
 
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The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.
 
Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com
 
Your donation will go directly into the podcast, helping to grow the WINMI community and allowing me to do so with greater ease and effectiveness. I wouldn't be here without listeners like you, so your donations are greatly appreciated. All donors will be recognized in a future episode for their generosity.
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September 22, 2019

Season Three Preview

Welcome to Season 3 of Why I’ll Never Make It, a weekly show, featuring insightful conversations with actors and fellow creatives on the realities of a career in the arts. In each episode we explore the setbacks and stumbles each of us face and how we overcome them, sometimes...all while challenging the notion of what it really means to “make it” in the entertainment industry.

I’m your host Patrick Oliver Jones, a professional actor and singer for than 25 years. From national tours and pre-Broadway productions, to developmental workshops and regional theaters across the US. I’m also a director, producer, and coach who knows first-hand how hard this industry is and the passion and dedication it takes to keep going.

This podcast typically runs between 45 to 60 minutes and releases every Wednesday. Every now and then, you’ll also get some bonus episodes from The Spotlight Series, where I talk to non-profit organizations making a difference in the arts and beyond. Also this season, Why I’ll Never Make It is going on the road...or rather out to sea. I’ve taken a contract on Norwegian Cruise Lines doing the musical FOOTLOOSE. So you’ll be getting some bite-size episodes at the end of each month about performing life, discussions on issues we artists face as well as taking your questions and comments.

It’s going to be a great season and I can’t wait for you to join me and my guests on Why I’ll Never Make It! Think of anyone you know who could also benefit from this podcast and tell them it’s available for free on any app that supports podcasts as well as the website, winmipodcast.com. Now go dive into the episodes and remember the reasons for not "making it" may be countless and arbitrary, but the reasons to keep going are even more numerous and rewarding.

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The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is both sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.
Your donation will go directly into the podcast, helping to grow the WINMI community and allowing me to do so with greater ease and effectiveness. I wouldn't be here without listeners like you, so your donations are greatly appreciated. All donors will be recognized in a future episode for their generosity.
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After being on WINMI Episode 32, fellow podcaster Clayton Howe invited me to return the favor and come on his podcast. We chatted about my own journey as an actor and what led to the creation of WHY I'LL NEVER MAKE IT. I share my own fears and battles with not "making it" but also what keeps me going and hoping along the way.

There's plenty of wit and wisdom in this great conversation with my friend, and I'm so glad to have been a part of his podcast. Enjoy!

Subscribe and listen to ENTERTAINMENT(X) and follow Clayton on Instagram.

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Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.
 
Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com
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Fellow actor and podcaster, Clayton Howe, riffs on the business of auditioning as well as creating new work and making a difference in the world...whether that world is our own theater community or a larger presence influencing millions.

He even brings up one influencer, Casey Neistat, who is a filmmaker and was ticketed here in NYC for not riding his bike in the bike lane. Through his videos and mission to fight back against the ticket, he ended up exposing a flaw in the enforcement of bike lanes and galvanized a strong following behind him. Watch the video that started it all. Notice the 22+ million views so far!

Okay, now back to Clayton...he and I first met during my contract with Disney Cruise Line. He was Vocal Captain and became a true friend on the ship. Since being back on land, our careers have led us in similar directions as we pursue more theater gigs around the country.

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Born and raised on Long Island and schooled at State University of New York (SUNY), Clayton has a resume that stretches from New York theater to regional theater and beyond. He most recently performed in From Here to Eternity at Ogunquit Playhouse and just finished a production at Gateway Playhouse for Cabaret.

All of this has brought Clay to a higher understanding of what it means to change the world through storytelling, which is why he created his podcast Entertainment(x). Clayton believes in understanding the roots of one's successes and struggles so others can learn from them and live a more fulfilled life...sounds familiar, eh? 

Much like WINMI, Clayton brings in names you might recognize, names you won't, and names you don't yet. In fact, in the coming weeks he'll be bringing me on his show. So stay tuned as your favorite host turns into Clayton's favorite guest! :)

Follow Clayton on Twitter and Instagram

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Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.
 
Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com
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